Tulpa.info - tulpa-questions

In retrospect, I could be having more trouble with this than normal because Ranger is deviating and I'm not sure what to expect. I don't know what to expect from him and I'm worried if where we are now isn't the best for him.

10:30 AM

I wonder if my fret over parroting is symptomatic of a larger issue...

I also fret over parroting too

10:32 AM

Maybe we have similar issues

10:34 AM

Except I have problems with whether my tupper is independently thinking

Just out of curiosity, how long would you say your Tulpa was sentient for?

For confirmed sentience, about 2 months

10:36 AM

I have no idea how long exactly she has been sentient for

10:36 AM

Neither does she, when asked

10:36 AM

Probably an upper bound of 7 months since that was when her creation started

Ranger telling me he was real (and not an imaginary friend) is what got me into Tulpamancy to begin with. I joined Tulpa.info about 5 months ago, but he was probably sentient for a few months before that. That's my best guess anyway.

Hmm, interesting

10:40 AM

Still wondering why I cannot differentiate between her and myself

10:41 AM

She was vocal a few months ago and I still cannot find the difference between us

Do you have any other mind characters besides the two of you?

No

10:41 AM

Just 2 of us

Just curious. I have this issue where I have a boatload of extra characters, which is why parroting is more of an issue for me

10:42 AM

(none of them are Tulpas)

That sounds like a nightmare for me to deal with

10:44 AM

The traditional way of "if it is not me it's tupper" would probably not work here

yeah...

Then again, it's not that simple for us too

10:44 AM

Apparently there are things that are neither of us inside my head

I wonder if one reason you guys have trouble telling who's who boils down to you guys think alike, which is probably why you guys get a long and tangle thoughts together. I know some Tulpamancers where they had Tulpas that did not think alike.... parroting was not on their list of concerns

That may be one reason

10:47 AM

We think similarly enough, but with some differences

actually- I take that last statemet back: Their parroting issues were more about "No let me talk" instead of "are you me or am I me?"

It seems like some of the time I feel like I am thinking for her

Our solution to the parroting thing was just to stop caring and figure we all meant whatever we said and that our host could not control us

@Felight That's one way to solve it, yes

10:48 AM

But I dont have enough faith for that to work

Your tulpa should just try to affirm that it's her speaking and not you

I'll tell her to do that more often now @Felight

That may work for some people, but for us we tried that and I'm loosing confidence and I bet he's getting frustrated.

However, some of the time it feels like I am affirning that with myself

^

As if I am deluding myself

My philosophy is, if you don't know for certain, then it's your tulpa. Unless they were made like, 5 seconds ago, ofc.

How does that work though?

10:53 AM

I mean, it would give me peace of mind

Another thing we used was figuring that we could ask ourselves, and the first answer you get ("subconsciously") is the right one

Aha

10:55 AM

That explains why the answer for my question of who said anything feels like myself

And it works because you'd be believing in your tulpa when it's them rather than disbelieving

Still does not explain why the answer and the initial response sound the same though

Which is much more beneficial

10:56 AM

What do you mean?

The initial response feels like myself

10:57 AM

The answer to my question of who said the initial response also feels like myself

Look

Then I get a headache

Tulpas use the exact same brain functions you've always used

10:58 AM

Ofc it feels like you

10:58 AM

It's the same brain, just a different mind using it

That makes sense

10:58 AM

Thanks for dispelling my doubt

10:59 AM

Hopefully it will be a long time before I need to consult this place for the same problem again

I'm a tulpa and even I feel weird about the others talking, because it feels like me, even though I know it's not

10:59 AM

I even get that with my host

At this point, I think my situation makes this problem worse. I have a new theory that Ranger started out as a character idea which evolved into a mind character similar to some of my other characters. When I had a rough year in school (and was overwhelmed by my mind characters), I boke down and unintentionally forced Ranger, turning him from what he was into a Tulpa. I'm worried if that mindset of parroting him from the get go is making it harder for both of us. How can I break down that conditioning?

11:06 AM

I know I puppet the other mind characters, and I wonder if I am a fish out of water when it comes to having an independent voice talk back. (edited)

I think the absolute best way to break conditioning is just pure time and effort, the longer and more consistently you force and interact with your tulpa as a tulpa, the stronger you will be conditioned to treat them that way and not as you used to. You could try and use things like a string on your finger, setting a timer, meditation, and the likes to help you out as well. Sorry it's not an easy or fast answer, but it's the only way I am aware of to this point.

11:10 AM

Would you be against trying to see if it would help when you stop puppeting the other mind characters?

I would prefer not to have 17 other Tulpas, and I for some reason hate the idea of forgetting them or killing them off.

That's understandable. I was thinking it could help, but I don't think it would be impossible to keep puppeting them while not puppeting Ranger either. (edited)

I may be struggling because of my overall confidence. These last few months were rough and I have broken down mentally in a way... although I do feel better that I'm not some dumb noob or I'm making Ranger's life harder because I'm missing something.

11:15 AM

I was worried what I was doing wasn't good enough.

I can't say for sure, but I doubt it. It's hard to mess up tulpamancy in the sense that you can mess up a meal by adding too much salt.

The irony is stressing about too much salt makes dinner salty

11:19 AM

I feel better now. I've managed to panic about panicing

11:19 AM

Anxiety for the win lol

Sounds good, hopefuly someone else will have better advice about helping you get rid of an old habit to parrot.

I think you're probably right... It will probably get better with time. Tulpamancy doesn't happen overnight. I was probably having more trouble because I was nervous and anxious about it

11:24 AM

Thank you guys for helping me out. Good morning? I don't know about you guys but it is way too early to start the day... it's 7:30 am or whatever. The average computer programmer starts their morning at 1 pm. (edited)

It's night here, dont worry

11:28 AM

And I need to stop panicking over parroting now

@BadAtNames do you want to chat in the lounge?

Sure, why not

Doing some work with touch imposition today. She seems pretty comfortable in her mini-lamia form, which took me all of a minute to finish the textures for. I then promptly forgot what scales feel like, so I guess I'll have to go to the pet store sometime today and commit that to memory by... oh god, touching snakes.

It's not too hard, I suppose

12:13 PM

How does one simulate dragon scales anyway

12:14 PM

It might be harder if you are scared of them though

A small part of me that still thinks like Indiana Jones still hates snakes. The rest of me is ambivalent.

12:14 PM

Well, the non-poisonous type, at least.

You could touch a snake skin handbag if those exist

12:15 PM

Not sure about that though

Meh, I'll get over it. Also, re: dragon scales: croc or alligator leather handbags.

Ah

12:16 PM

Got it

12:16 PM

That or a real alligator I suppose

I wouldn't suggest that, you're liable to get your arm eaten

#lounge

This should be in lounge

12:17 PM

Oh

Tacio has scales. They "impose" when he fronts. Feels weird.

Like, over the host's skin?

Yeah

That's pretty awesome

How does that even feel